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Post by Atsuko73 on Feb 16, 2004 17:30:57 GMT -5
haha, okay. He's a "car/sports" guy. Anyway, I hate the concept of nascar, and usually hate watching it, but it was crazy to see like 12 cars smash into each other...and one went rolling all crazy-like up and down and sideways...yeah...so...uh...yup.
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Post by UsherBen on Feb 16, 2004 18:28:43 GMT -5
yeah, i agree seeing that many shitty ""stock"" cars smash into each other is the only thing nascar has going for it. that and the support of many rednecks.....
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Magonus
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Post by Magonus on Feb 16, 2004 23:40:45 GMT -5
Beyond Nascar being boring as hell to watch, how does anyone consider it a sport? And honestly, it's kind of morbid that people just watch is for the crashes. How do I know this is the reason it is watched? If it wasn't, distance running would be a major spectator sport. It's far more exciting to see someone pushing themselves putting forth a major effort of will than to see someone sitting on their ass driving in a circle, except the distance runners never crash (well, technically they might get tripped up occasionally, but no where near the frequency or danger).
-Magonus
ps: It was the Romans feeding people to the lions, the Christians (amongst other people) were the ones getting fed.
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Post by Atsuko73 on Feb 17, 2004 2:57:23 GMT -5
I'd just like to say that I don't like the crashes, it's just weird to see it. Normally in life you don't see 12 cars just fly into each other and flip and all that. it's interesting. I think it sucks for the drivers, but they put themselves in that position, and know what they are getting into (a dumb, pointless, gas-wastin' race...).
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Post by UsherBen on Feb 17, 2004 11:49:53 GMT -5
except the distance runners never crash (well, technically they might get tripped up occasionally, but no where near the frequency or danger). I don't know about that, there is quite a bit of danger in distance running. Has your head ever been stepped on by a guy at full speed wearing 6 or 7 half inch spikes on his shoe? neither has mine, but that's just because i don't fall a lot. I know that the good ole' boys in their fast cars are going about 1,000-2,000 times as fast, but they have an incredible amount of very advanced safety features at their disposal (even if they don't use them *cough Dale Earnhardt cough*) to the point that the actual danger is really quite low. Compare this to the runner that has a lightweight pair of shoes, short shorts and a skimpy singlet. and who, depending on the size of the race, is surrounded by up to several thousand other runners all packed as tightly together as possible. just tripping at that point could be life threatening.
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Magonus
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Post by Magonus on Feb 17, 2004 14:49:06 GMT -5
Technically it could be threatening, but the worst I've ever had was some small cuts to the shin from spikes, every race I've been in where I've seen someone wipe out people would at the very least go around them, sometimes even grab their arms and help pull them up as they ran by. All in all, a considerate group (at least, from my experience. Maybe I've always just missed the asshole maneuvers). And while I'm sure Nascar drivers (at least most of them) wouldn't intentionally injure another driver in a race, you have a lot less control at 200 mph than at a running pace.
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Post by profdunebastard on Feb 17, 2004 16:26:41 GMT -5
Once the lovely contributions of Constantine came into effect and Romans became christians, christians did their fair share of feeding big kitties.
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Post by UsherBen on Feb 17, 2004 18:49:25 GMT -5
that control thing really depends on the conditions. whereas in nascar, any time they see a few drops of rain on the windshield they get out the tarps and wait for the rain to stop, only restarting after the track is dry. While in real races, the only real reasons they will cancel a race would be lightning (in high school, not sure about other venues) or maybe if it is excessively cold. so we have: 200mph in nearly perfect conditions on a 1-3mile oval in machines that were explicitely designed for it vs. running at 10-15mph on anything from dry grass, mud, small creeks, asphalt, etc. in anything from sunshine to rain/sleet/hail/snow on (usually) narrow winding course through trees, up and down steep hills, over potholes/exposed roots, etc. you get the idea.
On the topic of falling, yes most runners are considerate, and usually aware of what's going on, but there are exceptions. especially in the woods when nobody else is around, all it takes is a well-placed elbow, and you are face-first into a tree.
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Post by FishBait on Feb 17, 2004 18:52:48 GMT -5
my brother always got weird cross country injuries, but they weren't because of crashes or anything, once he hit his head on a sign cause he's dumb and he wasn't paying attention, and once while running in the woods a bee flew up his nose and stung him, it was pretty funny, his face puffed up and he looked really silly, i laughed and made fun of him as siblings should
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Post by UsherBen on Feb 17, 2004 19:23:48 GMT -5
i laughed and made fun of him as siblings should hehe good work, yeah i never really got anything, except for akid that got mad that i beat him across the line at the end of he race, he "slipped" and i got 5 or 6 cuts on the outside of my ankle. of course my coach wanted to bandage it, but i got away and did my cool down run first.
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Post by Valvilis on Feb 19, 2004 14:08:19 GMT -5
The romans only killed the Christians that caused trouble when they were still in power. The Christians, however, at least in the Eastern empire, actively rounded up all those that still followed the traditional faiths and fed them to lions in the colloseum for sport, including women and the elderly... good one, Christians.
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Post by the anti-myrmidon on Feb 19, 2004 14:45:56 GMT -5
To be fair, Nero and Domitian were pretty heavy into the persecution of Christians just because, though they also targeted other groups with similar brutality. Theodosius however, did begin a much more constant persecution of non-official religions (being anything other than Christianity) which was taken up by his descendants.
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Post by Valvilis on Feb 21, 2004 20:53:23 GMT -5
To be fair yet again, Nero and Domitian were into just about everything, as long as it was wacky. They didn't specifically target the Christians the way the Christians would later specifically target Roman pantheists.
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Post by the anti-myrmidon on Feb 21, 2004 23:05:52 GMT -5
That's basically what I said, Val
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Post by profdunebastard on Feb 21, 2004 23:55:33 GMT -5
And to be fair to me, that's basically what I said before both of you, although you guys were a bit more factastic. Kudos all around, I say.
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